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Just Boris's avatar

“Having delved into this more than was probably warranted, I am more convinced than ever that everyone got this wrong”

Not everyone Ani. And not Boris. Cos Boris is observant and has never seen a job where a woman is paid less than a man. Ergo no pay inequity. qed.

I do like your honesty Ani, even when you seem forced to challenge what might be considered ‘typical feminist views’. This was another good read and reinforced my decision to sign up fully to your thread.

ATC roles require a higher degree of intelligence than social work. That’s what they’re being paid for. Same as pilots vs bus drivers. And the same as nurses vs police. Being a cop ain’t intellectually challenging for most of them, trust me on this.

The bigger picture here is how society values (or rather undervalues) certain roles. Compare care givers to advertising or real estate. The latter paid way more simply because they produce more ‘wealth’ as per our narrow minded view of value.

But it ain’t a male v female thing and the lefties are idiots for pushing that argument.

A perfect example of pay not reflecting value are Ambulance staff (50/50 male/female). Challenging role, requires brains, often risky, often dealing with shitheads, poor hours etc and doing God’s work. Like nurses, way undervalued. And meanwhile we pay cultural advisers across the motu big salaries for, well, pretty much for no return.

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Liz Wells's avatar

Are the levels of qualifications necessary,add value or even contribute to how a job is done. I question whether a 4 year degree is needed for social work or a 5 year degree for being a librarian...in my profession a 4 year degree was required...learnt more on the job in relation to what was required than at university which really just let me indulge my love of learning ....hence be careful if letting the years of study required to enter a profession be your guide.

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