Judith Collins was spot-on in her summation of what the privileges committee's function is. In a course I did some years ago, fronted by a tikanga "expert" the take-home message was that it varies enormously between iwi in different parts of the country. TPM are trying to sell us the idea that it's one system.
Ani, I am sad to see that racism is increasing on a daily basis. I spent my childhood in Southern Africa during the apartheid era and believe New Zealand is becoming an apartheid state itself.
I recall bus shelters toilets etc being marked "Whites Only", or "Non Whites Only". This is now being echoed by our universities who have set aside rooms for Maori and Pasifika only. I remember some universities trying, mostly unsuccessfully to, indoctrinate students with a particular viewpoint and culture. We now see our universities and some professional organisations making it compulsory to learn about Maori Culture and the Maori "worldview", which is simply indoctrination.
During the 1981 Springbok Tour, their were massive protests against "racially selected teams", but here we sit with The New Zealand Maori rugby team?
Finding another country that permits a race based political party to exist, let alone contest elections is rather difficult. Setting aside race based parliamentary seats is also clearly now a racist issue. These seats were quite rightly established when only landowners could vote. Given the then Maori system of land tenure, Maori would have been disenfranchised and so seats were rightly reserved to ensure Maori had a voice. With the introduction of universal suffrage they became unnecessary, and now with our MMP system, they actually distort the make up of our parliament.
Racism is not only a "one way street". Te Pati Maori meembers behaved disgracefully, and if they really believed in the things they say they would refuse to enter parliament.
Finally I find yesterday's protest quite interesting. Who knew that there were so many employers willing to give their staff paid leave to attend a protest? Sometimes people need to make sure they know the hand that feeds them.
Well articulated Ani, just a couple of quick points from ol’ Boris.
1. The ToW Bill from Act intended to define the principles of the Treaty. Not ‘redefine’. That’s important.
2. Your point regarding TPMs opposition to the House & Westminster System in general is well made. TPM are engaging in sedition. Heck, we used to hang people for treason, this ain’t far off that. Because of this, no, not harsh at all imnsho.
3. Hipkins is just 100% twat.
4. No place for tikanga in the House, it’s a western system, buy into it or go elsewhere. FIFO principles apply. We don’t try and impose our protocols on the Marae. (Although Maori have pretty much adopted so much of our technologically & intellectually superior culture that there really ain’t much actual ‘Maori’ left in them tbh. (They wear clothes, drive cars, wear cowboy hats etc) so why not embrace democracy too? Just saying.
I find it interesting that virtually every government department's website says that it will act in accordance with the "principle of The Treaty" yet not a single one actually defines what those principles are!
The problem in Parliament itself lies in the weakness of the Speaker, rarely have we had such chaos. The problem with our Nation lies with, again, weak leadership. Even the water Lillies are rooted in mud.....just saying....thank you Ani for your excellent exposure.
Liam Hehir of The Blue Review wrote very fully yesterday explaining the constitutional imperatives and the responsibility to maintain order if our House of Reps is not to perish - 'Roaring about urgency, silent about authority'. Suggest a must read, Ani.
Ani, are you OK? It seems like there's a lot of fear and anger in this post. You say:
"The Privileges Committee recommendations have been called the harshest ever imposed in New Zealand political history by those sympathetic to Te Pāti Māori."
Wasn't it Gerry Brownlee who said that because it's a fact? Nothing to do with political support.
The TPM did NOT interrupt the vote. It was completed - view the House video as others have to confirm - as Lianne Dalziel notes in her Newsroom article.
Judith Collins was spot-on in her summation of what the privileges committee's function is. In a course I did some years ago, fronted by a tikanga "expert" the take-home message was that it varies enormously between iwi in different parts of the country. TPM are trying to sell us the idea that it's one system.
Ani, I am sad to see that racism is increasing on a daily basis. I spent my childhood in Southern Africa during the apartheid era and believe New Zealand is becoming an apartheid state itself.
I recall bus shelters toilets etc being marked "Whites Only", or "Non Whites Only". This is now being echoed by our universities who have set aside rooms for Maori and Pasifika only. I remember some universities trying, mostly unsuccessfully to, indoctrinate students with a particular viewpoint and culture. We now see our universities and some professional organisations making it compulsory to learn about Maori Culture and the Maori "worldview", which is simply indoctrination.
During the 1981 Springbok Tour, their were massive protests against "racially selected teams", but here we sit with The New Zealand Maori rugby team?
Finding another country that permits a race based political party to exist, let alone contest elections is rather difficult. Setting aside race based parliamentary seats is also clearly now a racist issue. These seats were quite rightly established when only landowners could vote. Given the then Maori system of land tenure, Maori would have been disenfranchised and so seats were rightly reserved to ensure Maori had a voice. With the introduction of universal suffrage they became unnecessary, and now with our MMP system, they actually distort the make up of our parliament.
Racism is not only a "one way street". Te Pati Maori meembers behaved disgracefully, and if they really believed in the things they say they would refuse to enter parliament.
Finally I find yesterday's protest quite interesting. Who knew that there were so many employers willing to give their staff paid leave to attend a protest? Sometimes people need to make sure they know the hand that feeds them.
Pretty sure Maori blokes got the right to vote before women did. Hey, hang on, maybe that’s where we went wrong??? (Kidding…)
I think that the protesters are ‘Government Funded’
Well articulated Ani, just a couple of quick points from ol’ Boris.
1. The ToW Bill from Act intended to define the principles of the Treaty. Not ‘redefine’. That’s important.
2. Your point regarding TPMs opposition to the House & Westminster System in general is well made. TPM are engaging in sedition. Heck, we used to hang people for treason, this ain’t far off that. Because of this, no, not harsh at all imnsho.
3. Hipkins is just 100% twat.
4. No place for tikanga in the House, it’s a western system, buy into it or go elsewhere. FIFO principles apply. We don’t try and impose our protocols on the Marae. (Although Maori have pretty much adopted so much of our technologically & intellectually superior culture that there really ain’t much actual ‘Maori’ left in them tbh. (They wear clothes, drive cars, wear cowboy hats etc) so why not embrace democracy too? Just saying.
I particularly agree with ol' Boris on point number 3!
I find it interesting that virtually every government department's website says that it will act in accordance with the "principle of The Treaty" yet not a single one actually defines what those principles are!
Like spoilt children they should be pulled into line. Better to be tough now or we will gradually undermine the authority of Parliament.
What say a ‘white party’ used similar tactics?
Appeasing tyrants has never worked.
Gerry Brownlee is bloody useless, far too soft and accommodating- just like the rest of National. What a disappointing shower they are.
The problem in Parliament itself lies in the weakness of the Speaker, rarely have we had such chaos. The problem with our Nation lies with, again, weak leadership. Even the water Lillies are rooted in mud.....just saying....thank you Ani for your excellent exposure.
Liam Hehir of The Blue Review wrote very fully yesterday explaining the constitutional imperatives and the responsibility to maintain order if our House of Reps is not to perish - 'Roaring about urgency, silent about authority'. Suggest a must read, Ani.
Liam is a friend of mine and an excellent political commentator. I will take a look at what he has said about this.
Go Ani
Ani, are you OK? It seems like there's a lot of fear and anger in this post. You say:
"The Privileges Committee recommendations have been called the harshest ever imposed in New Zealand political history by those sympathetic to Te Pāti Māori."
Wasn't it Gerry Brownlee who said that because it's a fact? Nothing to do with political support.
Best wishes!
The TPM did NOT interrupt the vote. It was completed - view the House video as others have to confirm - as Lianne Dalziel notes in her Newsroom article.